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This educational course will provide teaching on different surgical techniques, but this does not mean an endorsement of that procedure by the ICS. Endorsement of techniques fall under the remit of national government healthcare organisations. The aim of ICS is to provide education regarding good surgical technique.
Programme
Time |
Title |
Speakers |
14:30 |
Introduction |
Elise De |
14:35 |
Multidisciplinary Care Team Building Tools and Basic Approaches |
Mickey Romics |
14:40 |
Trauma Informed Care |
Nelly Faghani |
14:50 |
Gyn - Internal |
Augusta Morgado Ribeiro |
15:05 |
Gyn - External |
Rachel Rubin |
15:20 |
Discussion |
All |
15:35 |
Break - Yoga for Chair Dwellers |
Dustienne Miller |
15:55 |
Urology - Bladder, Ureters, Urethra, Prostate |
Mickey Romics |
16:10 |
Urology - Scrotal Content Pain |
Sijo Parekattil |
16:20 |
Anorectal Pain |
Peter Onody |
16:35 |
Neuro GI Contributors |
Barbara Nath |
16:50 |
Imaging for Organ Based Pain |
Mukesh Harisinghani |
17:00 |
Patient Engagement |
Jill Osborne |
17:10 |
Discussion |
All |
17:25 |
Closing |
Phil Bearn |
17:30 |
END |
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This Masterclass is being delivered by the ICS Global Pelvic Pain Exchange Program Working Group. Below is a list of other Collaborative Case Discussions hosted by this group.
Discussion Session |
Date |
“How-To”: Basic Approaches to Pelvic Pain |
Sunday, October 15, 2023 |
Pelvic Floor Muscle tone – Why It is Important and How to Change It |
Friday, November 10, 2023 |
Hip Causes of Pelvic Pain |
Sunday, December 3, 2023 |
ICS Masterclass on Pelvic Pain: Organ- Based Pain |
Saturday, January 13, 2024 |
Focal Neurological Pelvic Pain |
Sunday, February 4, 2024 |
Neurodiagnostics for Pelvic Pain |
Friday, March 8, 2024 |
TENS, Blocks, Stimulation, and Pumps for Pelvic Pain |
Friday, April 5, 2024 |
Systemic Pain involving the Pelvis |
Friday, May 10, 2024 |
Pharm, Psych and Patient Empowerment for Pelvic Pain |
Friday, June 14, 2024 |
Provisional: SIG Neuro-Urogynecology and Urogenital Pain |
August, 2024 |
Record of Questions and answers
Question |
Answer |
Jane Meijlink: In Europe in recent years we have found it difficult to find rheumatologists with an interest in IC/BPS, even though many pts have a rheumatic autoimmune disease. How can we get them interested anfd involved? |
Elise De: In USA it has been tricky as well - some private Rheum will treat but few with an academic interest. Mickey Romics: I would have a hard time to find a rheum who show interest in a mainly urological problem. If you find one who's interested in pain syndromes in general than you have found someone who will help you with these patients. (I would advise to look for young MDs with an open mind and (as prof De was saying) in academid centers. Also it might be useful to have the number of a pharmacologist or a anasthesiologist (in case some TCAs or neuromodulator drugs are needed) on speed dial |
Jane Meijlink: Many thanks for all the comments. We need rheumatologists and immunologists involved in research projects when pts have IC/BPS or other pelvic pain syndromes + a system autoimmune disease. And to give presentations at conferences. |
Elise De: I will make it our next goal! Great point |
Benedetto Giardulli: Hello everybody. I just wanted to comment on what Jane said. I suggest you get in touch with the European Alliance of Associations for Rheumatology (EULAR), as they have a specific Study Group on Reproductive Health and Family Planning comprising various healthcare professionals. Their names are available online. I've had some contacts with them, and I am sure they are very interested in research projects involving pelvic and sexual health with rheumatic and musculoskeletal diseases (RMD). |
Elise De: Thank you for this Benny! Any other resources from our attendees? |
Hee Seo Son: Thank you very much for nice lectures!! |
Elise De : Thank you for being here! |
Leonard Stephens: Who gets vaginal oestrogen for recurrent UTI? Is it only for postmenopausal women? |
Elise De: Perimenopausal data is there. No harm to premenopausal. OCPs Spironolactone, disordered eating can impact hormones in premenopausal |
Anonymous Attendee: How do you treat patinet with breast cancer, who complains of severe vulvodynia associated with secere atrophy? |
Elise De: Active aromatase inhibitors may be a concern for increased risk of recurrence. Data has not shown concern for others - in fact decreased mortality. consider DHEA |
Ahmad Khalifa: This session is very informative. Thanks. What is the allocation of time you give in your clinic for the patient for appropriate comprehensive history and exam. In the UK, I find 10-15 min very difficult to go through deeply |
Elise De: Agree! We all have our ways of making the time and finances work. Often pre-visit paperwork and splitting into multiple visits (including virtual) |
Julie Ruzickova: Thank you very much for this perfect workshop. I would like to ask about whether there ary any guidelines for physiotherapist how they can ease the pain caused by pelvic congestion syndrome. Thank you |
Beth Shelly: As far as I know there are no offcial guidlines for pelvic congestion. Some are using manual lymph draiange but not enough research to know. |
Anna Maron: Thanks the organizers for this masterclass.Q for Dr.Rubin: hoh often in your practice do you provide the surgery as a vulvodynia treatment? Looking forward to meet you in person on ISSWSH meeting |
Elise De: Per Dr. Rubin: Only when diagnosis of neuroproliferative vestibulodynia is suspected and they have a successful vestibular anesthesia test |
Ahmad Khalifa: What is meant by (targeted) block, inj ections .. etc .. wht is meant by targeted, do you mean cord clock |
Sijo Parekattil: Its s modification of the standrad spermatic cord block I a targeted spermatic cord block. You can watch our youtube video on our channel at Avant Concierge Urology https://youtu.be/h66r0sbd8yY?si=aOxBb0S8h3Rqn03g |
Leonard Stephens: How do you treat chronic pelvic pain post prior surgical intervention for eg epididymal cyst, hydrocelectomy, testicular torsion etc. ..meaning scrotal pain |
Sijo Parekattil: https://youtu.be/5oYutzY93b4?si=J9h6TRucDllM1ksJ Phil Bearn: will ask at Q and A |
Julie Ruzickova: I would like to ask about what would you recommend for a patient? Woman 37years old, 2 children, undiagnosed and untreated labour injury 3th grade during 1st delivery, then in March 2023 overlapping sphincteroplasty. Sphincter and levator ani are working well, but even though she regularly does scar massage and low energy laser therapy, she feels pain and has problems defecating, resulting in hemoroids. Thank you very much |
Phil Bearn: Difficult one. I suspect she has ODS due to neuropathy Defecating proctogram? If she is continent you have done v well. Péter Ónody: I would doa defecography first. After depending on the result starting biofeedback tratment Beth Shelly: Biofeedback bearing down training? Péter Ónody: If the patient has a dyssinergic defecation, than as I know the biofeedback could be one of the most effective treatment. |
Julie Ruzickova: Thank you very much. Continence is perfect, problem is pain. I will try to find someone who does def.proctogram in CR. |
Phil Bearn: let us know! |
Ahmad Khalifa: is levator ano syndrome only for women, or men too, I used to see patients with pevic pain and LUTs and they are heavy cyclers, are they ? levator ani Syndrome |
Phil Bearn: cd be but pudendal neuralgia worth entertaing |
Beth Shelly: Current accepted term is PFM tension myalgia that inlcudes a muscle that is firm to palpation and painful to palapate. This is possible in any muscle of the pelvic floor and in both genders. Assessment would specifcially identify whihc muscle(s) are involved and treat specifically |
Péter Ónody: Pudendal nerve entrapment and pain of the ano-coccygeal ligamant are often seen in thes heavy cyclers as well. |
Julie Ruzickova: Gladly! I really struggle to help her somehow, further advice would be great for me. |
Elise De: This will be a great open discussion |
Naheed Kapadia: wonderffull talk |
Mukesh Harisinghani: Shukhran |
Ahmad Khalifa: how to confirm the diagnosis of pelvic congestion? |
Mukesh Harisinghani: combination of clinical story, exam and imaging (which can be cross sectional study); can be then confirmed with venogram treated as well |
Ahmad Khalifa: Thank you very much, world class course |
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Record of Chat
01:25:16 Elise De: Greetings! So happy to have you all here. After Dr. Rubin's talk, we'll have a Q and A period. You may write questions in the Q and A, or raise your hand and ask questions/make comments verbally.
01:37:01 Elise De: The PGAD Paper by ISSWSH: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1743609521001752
01:40:37 Elise De: Androgens: https://www.isswsh.org/resources/publications/469-the-role-of-androgens-in-the-treatment-of-genitourinary-syndrome-of-menopause-gsm
01:43:53 Elise De: https://www.rachelrubinmd.com/
01:55:52 Elise De: Next up! https://flourishphysicaltherapy.com/about/dustienne-miller/
02:01:47 Beth Shelly: There are some good comments and links in this chat I think the particpants cannot see. Is there a way to paste them in the participant chat
02:32:27 Elise De: https://avanturol.com/
02:33:08 Elise De: There was a question to Dr. Rubin re: whether urethral pain could, in fact, be a variant of vestibuloydnia and she confirmed yes.
03:03:09 Mickey Romics: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2997493/
03:03:17 Mickey Romics: About treating trigonitis
03:03:38 Mickey Romics: https://www.facingpelvicpain.org/treatment-map
03:04:01 Mickey Romics: And for facing everything else
03:04:23 Mickey Romics: There is a great therapy map you can download and give out to your patients
03:13:54 Sijo Parekattil: you can reach me with any questions at: sijo@avantconciergeurol.com
03:28:38 Elise De: https://www.ic-network.com/
03:39:51 Elise De: Discussion is open!
03:40:05 Elise De: Raise hand or send Q in Q and A
03:48:10 Elise De: We have some wonderful sessions on musculoskeltal in the ICS calendar and ICS TV for more on the pelvic floor muscles https://www.ics.org/courses/1252
03:48:49 Naheed Kapadia: thank you so much for organizing such a Fabolous master class
03:49:40 Elise De: We also have some in-depth classes on focal and systemic nerve pathology
03:49:46 Hee Seo Son: Thank you very much for such a nice in so instructive a webinar!!
03:51:09 Hee Seo Son: Hope to meet again in nerve pathology session!!
03:52:05 Miriam van Hartevelt: Thank you so much for the very interesting lectures.
03:52:58 Julie Ruzickova: Thank you very much for organization, informative lectures and helpful advices!
03:53:53 Benedetto Giardulli: Thank you!
03:53:53 Joy Hyunjeong Jang: its very informative presentation and creating wonderful webinar!! I've learned a lot today!